http://www.angelfire.com/art/enchanter/scarv.html

całkiem ciekawe informacje

a tu z eskrimy

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/81xAaa4dCc4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/81xAaa4dCc4</a>

a to  8D ;-)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/UFfhxVmdXZ4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/UFfhxVmdXZ4</a>

dobry koleś 8D

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/fyUQXb3NN7Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/fyUQXb3NN7Q</a>

A tu jeszcze Sayoc

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/mPMUmE7oRO8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/mPMUmE7oRO8</a>


pozdrawiam

mlodyraduh

znane przeze mnie style walki batem (przez "znane" rozumiem ze wiem o nich a nie ze jestem w nich miszczem;) ) to:

-whipboxing (czyli styl australijczyków)
-western styl (ameryka -uczy go m.in. Antony deLongis)
-Latigo&daga Toma Medowsa
-Sayok
-no i pentjak silat

ktos wie cos jeszcze?

Filmik - bat w sayoc:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/mPMUmE7oRO8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/mPMUmE7oRO8</a>

Witam,
co to za strzał jest w 36 sec? koleś przekłada tak jakby bicz nad głową
pozdrawiam

wyglada na overhead aler podcięty-to znaczy nie całkiem w poziomej płaszczyźnie

jeszcze inne pytanko, mianowicie jak wygląda helikopterek? http://wwwhips.com/video/indoor_6.avi czy to jest to?

nie moge teraz otworzyć filmu ale to prosta technika-to multicrack -strzelasz overhand przenosisz bat po strzale nad głową nad lewym ramieniem znów strzelasz nad prawym itd

ok. dzięki to już wiem co to jest. To nie to z filmu :]

a jednak w whu-shu bullwhip jest uzywany  8D

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/tkILmmEev8g" width="425px" height="350px" AllowScriptAccess="never" quality="high" wmode="transparent" /><noembed><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/tkILmmEev8g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/tkILmmEev8g</a>


i przypomina tance plemion czego tak brakowało Buariemu

wracając jeszcze do wushu (nie zauważyłem tego wcześniej) - ten gościu jest anglikiem (19lat) i najwyraźniej podpatrzył bat od chinoli, którzy właśnie strzelają z taką manierą. jak kiedyś odgrzebię swoje archiwa, to zamieszczę filmik z facetem z beijing wushu team, który używa bardzo długiego bulla i potrafi z nim zrobić kilka fajnych rzeczy. w każdym bądź razie chińczycy zaadaptowali bat do układów sportowych już jakiś czas temu, tylko niewielu osobom chce się w to bawić

pozdrawiam

a dzis  film o innym bacie czyli sjambok w akcji oraz fajnie pokazana walka w starym westernie

<embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yyV4EAduWEM" width="425px" height="350px" AllowScriptAccess="never" quality="high" wmode="transparent" /><noembed><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/yyV4EAduWEM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/yyV4EAduWEM</a> <embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/m8anITsv76k" width="425px" height="350px" AllowScriptAccess="never" quality="high" wmode="transparent" /><noembed><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/m8anITsv76k" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/m8anITsv76k</a>

Nei sjambok w akcji tylko materiały Cold Steela znalazłeś. Ich minusem jest to, że nawet listek byliby w stanie przedstawić jako mordercze, skuteczne narzędzie
Ciekawe z czego były te piłeczki?

Niezależnie jednak od tego skąd pochodzą takie ujęcia powiem jedno - we własną dupę nie chciałbym tym dostać ;P

znalazlem ciekawy tekst na whipentuzjast pozwalam sobie wkleic (najwyej mnie zbanujá  ;-) )

Whips in martial arts


To Larry in NYC and interested others, (Peter Jack, Riz, Victor Tella.
et al..)
Several martial art forms have circular patterning in a number of
techniques and a few disciplines have katas or established techniques
for the whip. Foremost in my mind are the flowing styles of the Chinese
approach on Wu Shu or Ba Gwa/Hsing I. A short study of the nine link
whip (metal sectioned weapon) or the meteor Hammer (monkey fist & rope)
or even the wind/water styles of the little flower spear use a whip
cracking motion in a continuous pattern. I know several on-line video
clips show some amazing skill from Wu Shu tournaments. I have one clip
myself I've previously tried to upload but the file size exceeds the
Yahoo packet size and most ISP's Email limitations.
Riz mentioned specific Escrima names but I only know one pattern as the
'six strike' that I've been told is also known as the cross follow. As
Riz covered, from integrity after impact is a strong consideration. Then
again I wouldn't want to be in the way of a whirling and cracking metal
sectioned whip. By the way, in the clip I have, the nine link whip is
cracked via the big fluffy red tassel just behind the end spike. In Wu
Shu, elbows and forearms and knees and shins are also involved in the
circular accelerations by partial wrapping and unwrapping as well as
aiding quick direction changes and increasing momentum.
There are two people you should probably contact as you research and
develop a martial adaptation for whips. One mentioned previously was
Phillip the Foole. A practitioner of a few Chinese styles I think he has
focused on Tai Chi Chuan. He also freely dispenses proverbs on tidbits
of quirky wisdom. The other person has some experience teaching a self
defense use if a short signal or snake whip and I believe he once
defended a young lady from a few predators in Ft. Worth by using a whip
he designed for that purpose and worn as a belt. I may have the story a
bit wrong but that gentleman is Skip Shadowfind.
I've also noticed another martial discipline many whip crackers pursue,
Archery. More than one whip maker and a number of whip handlers have
mentioned to me that shared interest and each remarked on the
similarities required of hand and eye coordination.
Although my own martial art background is limited to a few empty hand
Japanese forms, I have played around a little with body movements
derived from those styles and some of the fundamental cracking
techniques. After a little experimentation, I found short stock whips
with a thong length around 3 to 4 feet worked best with how I moved and
the styles I was most comfortable with. The stock haft could be used as
a short Jo for jabs and hard strikes and the thong for soft tissue
impact and wraps leading to disarms or takedowns and leading into
control or constriction (binding limbs or choke holds).
The Whip Enthusiasts organization endorses only a fraction of whip sport
possibilities and continues to hold a steadfast line against combative
whip sports. There is ample interest for other sport pursuits to be
explored and a focal organization like the WE may unify or lend
structure to those developing sports. As most WE affiliated practice
groups meet in public parks or city facilities, the consequences all
whip groups might have to face if someone partially witnesses or
misinterprets a combative whip sport and reports to local authorities an
overreaction or incorrect viewpoint, could jeopardize the positive press
and good relations we've worked very hard to establish as well as those
local resources disallowing our continued use. The Whip Enthusiasts
promotes sport cracking as family friendly and as non-confrontational to
the public view as possible. We have adapted existing Australian
competitions to our western art and whip performer history and developed
a sport that is focused toward individual skill development and
affirmative of self discipline and refined dexterity control. Like a few
shooting accuracy sports, our variation of whip contests does not group
competitors by age or gender, only experience or skill level. We've yet
to reach a generally accepted method of individual skill ranking like
the color belt system used in a few martial art based sports and even a
number of cracking techniques have different names depending on regional
locale or terms preferred by the small number of instructors. Only
recently have instructional resources of quality video tapes reached
wide distribution and they still number less than a dozen volumes all
together from less than half that number of instructors.
Our organization and the numerous contributing members have accomplished
much, but we still have a work to do in reaching some standardization of
terminology and judging criteria as well as continuing to garner
positive press exposure to gain public acceptance and perhaps in a few
years we'll see a trial whip sport exhibition at an Olympics. I think
that is an attainable goal we could reach if our past growth continues.
Which brings me to close this posting with a last reminder about the
upcoming Whip Weekend a day or so away. The Dallas / Ft. Worth area
practice group is having their fourth annual whip event and we're
expecting a record number of participants to join us for two days of
whip cracking fun and friendly contests. I've heard from a number of out
of town guests excited about meeting other members and anxious to handle
the craftsmanship of the half dozen or more whip makers attending. You
might just find yourself returning home a bit muscle sore with a new
addition to your collection in your whip bag and a few more techniques
to practice and polish before the next event. With three affiliate
practice groups in Texas and two more groups in Oklahoma, can a South
Central US regional event be far off? I can see how a progression for
local champion to regional champion could lead to a national and then an
international competition. It's something to keep in mind and encourage
your local affiliate to hold it's own annual Whip Weekend or to invite a
few whip cracking friends to join you for a regular scheduled practice
and form your own WE affiliate.
I hope to see you this weekend.

Keep 'em cracking,
Seb~